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Как складываются скорости в каждой из моделей при 0,6 c и 0,6 c?

Сложение 0,6 c и 0,6 c даёт у галилеевой кинематики 6/5 скорости света — больше самой c, — а у СТО ровно 15/17. У второго числа десятичной записи нет, и оба ответа хранятся точными дробями.

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Collection

Эфир: 0,6 c и 0,6 c дают 6/5 c — БОЛЬШЕ скорости света

6/5

Query parameters · 3
q
question 4: the composition of velocities and the speed of a light signal
r
sim-efir
o
observable: the ratio of the composed speed to the speed of light — a dimensionless exact fraction
Input facts · 15

  • the setting is declared: the operational conditions of the experiment are named

    s: sim

  • both frames of the setting are declared inertial

    s: sim

  • the distance between the two events along the direction of motion, measured with the rulers of the laboratory frame

    s: simdx: 299792458 m

  • the difference of the readings of the synchronised laboratory clocks at the places of the two events

    s: simdt: 0 s

  • the speed of the second frame relative to the laboratory along the x axis; the sign is the direction of the transition

    s: simv: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the proper time interval of the process: measured where its beginning and end occur at the same place

    s: simtau: 4 s

  • the proper length of the rod: measured by an observer at rest relative to both of its ends

    s: siml0: 10 m

  • what is carried is a body with rest mass, not a light signal

    s: sim

  • the speed of the body relative to the SECOND frame along the x axis — the speed to be composed with the frame speed

    s: simu: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the run belongs to this theory and this setting

    rts
    sim-efirthe simple stationary luminiferous ether model in an authored reconstruction: a preferred frame, absolute time, Galilean transformations, c relative to the medium, no dragging and no contractionsim
    sim-lorentzLorentz's electrodynamics of moving bodies in the 1904 formulation: a stationary aether, local time as an auxiliary variable, contraction of bodies and altered molecular forcessim
    sim-einsteinspecial relativity in the 1905 formulation: an operational definition of simultaneity, two principles, the transformation of coordinates and time, the composition of velocitiessim

  • §4: the factor k presented by the case; defined by k² = c²/(c² − w²), an identity verifiable without a square root

    r: sim-lorentzk: 5/4

  • the relative motion of the two frames to which the computing package will refer the quantities of this run

    r: sim-einsteinmo: sim-dvizhenie

  • §3: the Lorentz factor presented by the case; its agreement with the speed is checked by the computing package by an identity without a square root

    r: sim-einsteing: 5/4
Issues · 2
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
Why this result? →Sources: 71

В модели эфира скорость света отсчитывается ОТ СРЕДЫ, а не от источника: складывать скорость света со скоростью источника она не позволяет, и на этой постановке складываются скорости тела с массой покоя.

Collection

СТО: те же скорости дают ровно 15/17 c — точная дробь

15/17

Query parameters · 3
q
question 4: the composition of velocities and the speed of a light signal
r
sim-einstein
o
observable: the ratio of the composed speed to the speed of light — a dimensionless exact fraction
Input facts · 15

  • the setting is declared: the operational conditions of the experiment are named

    s: sim

  • both frames of the setting are declared inertial

    s: sim

  • the distance between the two events along the direction of motion, measured with the rulers of the laboratory frame

    s: simdx: 299792458 m

  • the difference of the readings of the synchronised laboratory clocks at the places of the two events

    s: simdt: 0 s

  • the speed of the second frame relative to the laboratory along the x axis; the sign is the direction of the transition

    s: simv: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the proper time interval of the process: measured where its beginning and end occur at the same place

    s: simtau: 4 s

  • the proper length of the rod: measured by an observer at rest relative to both of its ends

    s: siml0: 10 m

  • what is carried is a body with rest mass, not a light signal

    s: sim

  • the speed of the body relative to the SECOND frame along the x axis — the speed to be composed with the frame speed

    s: simu: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the run belongs to this theory and this setting

    rts
    sim-efirthe simple stationary luminiferous ether model in an authored reconstruction: a preferred frame, absolute time, Galilean transformations, c relative to the medium, no dragging and no contractionsim
    sim-lorentzLorentz's electrodynamics of moving bodies in the 1904 formulation: a stationary aether, local time as an auxiliary variable, contraction of bodies and altered molecular forcessim
    sim-einsteinspecial relativity in the 1905 formulation: an operational definition of simultaneity, two principles, the transformation of coordinates and time, the composition of velocitiessim

  • §4: the factor k presented by the case; defined by k² = c²/(c² − w²), an identity verifiable without a square root

    r: sim-lorentzk: 5/4

  • the relative motion of the two frames to which the computing package will refer the quantities of this run

    r: sim-einsteinmo: sim-dvizhenie

  • §3: the Lorentz factor presented by the case; its agreement with the speed is checked by the computing package by an identity without a square root

    r: sim-einsteing: 5/4
Issues · 2
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
Why this result? →Sources: 71

Сложение скоростей разводит модели резче всего: галилеева сумма даёт 6/5 скорости света — больше самой c, — а релятивистская ровно 15/17.

Эфир: 0,6 c и 0,6 c дают 6/5 c — БОЛЬШЕ скорости света

Condition

И расхождение выводится правилом, а не глазами

Established

Query parameters · 4
q
question 4: the composition of velocities and the speed of a light signal
a
sim-efir
b
sim-einstein
o
observable: the ratio of the composed speed to the speed of light — a dimensionless exact fraction
Input facts · 15

  • the setting is declared: the operational conditions of the experiment are named

    s: sim

  • both frames of the setting are declared inertial

    s: sim

  • the distance between the two events along the direction of motion, measured with the rulers of the laboratory frame

    s: simdx: 299792458 m

  • the difference of the readings of the synchronised laboratory clocks at the places of the two events

    s: simdt: 0 s

  • the speed of the second frame relative to the laboratory along the x axis; the sign is the direction of the transition

    s: simv: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the proper time interval of the process: measured where its beginning and end occur at the same place

    s: simtau: 4 s

  • the proper length of the rod: measured by an observer at rest relative to both of its ends

    s: siml0: 10 m

  • what is carried is a body with rest mass, not a light signal

    s: sim

  • the speed of the body relative to the SECOND frame along the x axis — the speed to be composed with the frame speed

    s: simu: 179875474.8 m_per_s

  • the run belongs to this theory and this setting

    rts
    sim-efirthe simple stationary luminiferous ether model in an authored reconstruction: a preferred frame, absolute time, Galilean transformations, c relative to the medium, no dragging and no contractionsim
    sim-lorentzLorentz's electrodynamics of moving bodies in the 1904 formulation: a stationary aether, local time as an auxiliary variable, contraction of bodies and altered molecular forcessim
    sim-einsteinspecial relativity in the 1905 formulation: an operational definition of simultaneity, two principles, the transformation of coordinates and time, the composition of velocitiessim

  • §4: the factor k presented by the case; defined by k² = c²/(c² − w²), an identity verifiable without a square root

    r: sim-lorentzk: 5/4

  • the relative motion of the two frames to which the computing package will refer the quantities of this run

    r: sim-einsteinmo: sim-dvizhenie

  • §3: the Lorentz factor presented by the case; its agreement with the speed is checked by the computing package by an identity without a square root

    r: sim-einsteing: 5/4
Issues · 2
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
  • редакция urn:bipm:clir:si-brochure#SI_BROCHURE_8_EN на дату права 2026-09-08 закрыта (in_force с 2006-01-01) — 4 узлов не участвуют в вычислении (§92.3/§31, E-0095)
Why this result? →Sources: 71

У числа 15/17 десятичной записи НЕТ, и попытка выразить его величиной в метрах в секунду роняет вычисление громко. Поэтому оба ответа хранятся точными дробями: округление сделало бы сравнение свойством записи, а не физики.

СТО: те же скорости дают ровно 15/17 c — точная дробь

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“Как складываются скорости в каждой из моделей при 0,6 c и 0,6 c?”. Arxo Lens, as of 2026-09-08. https://lens.arxo.io/a/b_b5df44cc56d1c9217ba09dbdb58955c633f90e7a5dc7379ba0a8405ea16b9942. Snapshot SHA-256: b5df44cc56d1c9217ba09dbdb58955c633f90e7a5dc7379ba0a8405ea16b9942.
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@misc{arxo-lens-b_b5df44cc56d1,
  title = {Как складываются скорости в каждой из моделей при 0,6 c и 0,6 c?},
  howpublished = {Arxo Lens},
  url = {https://lens.arxo.io/a/b_b5df44cc56d1c9217ba09dbdb58955c633f90e7a5dc7379ba0a8405ea16b9942},
  note = {as of 2026-09-08; SHA-256 b5df44cc56d1c9217ba09dbdb58955c633f90e7a5dc7379ba0a8405ea16b9942}
}
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